Question:
I need law enforcement advice!?
anonymous
2014-10-15 16:52:31 UTC
Okay, I get pulled over in my moms vehicle, for ex. tag, no ins., and no registration.. Mind you, this is only the second time I've ever been pulled over in my short driving history. The cop gives me those 3 citations above.. I call the police department to see what I can do about it & to find out how much all the fines are (I'm in ga btw). No registration alone, is $716.00, and no insurance is automatic lose your license with a $360 fine. Expired tag is $128.
The cop kept telling me that since it wasn't in my name he couldn't take me to jail, but that I "had my permit for now"..
The lady at the police department told me of it wasn't in my name they would give the citation to my mom... My mother doesn't have a job or the kind of money to pay off those citations, or I'm sure she would have had insurance on the damn vehicle. I cannot let my mother get in trouble for this, and I myself don't have the money to pay all of this either, but I cannot be put on probation... Like I said this is the VERY FIRST time I've ever been in ANY trouble with the law whatsoever.

All of this happened one day after I got married.. Do any of you have advice on any of this? I'm sure you can imagine how devistated I was. Ps, a friend of mine got pulled over for an expired tag a couple days later, they let him go, and told him to just "get it taken care of". I need all the help I can get. Any advice please. No rude comments.
Five answers:
?
2014-10-15 19:53:29 UTC
No insurance was probably the clincher in your case.

You real need to keep the vehicle off the road if you have no insurance.

But what is done is done.

If you and you Mom put money together how long would it take you to pay it off?

Could you do it in 6 months mmmm.... about 200 a month?

Sometimes they'll give you 6 months usually always 3 months 400 a month is is a bit steep.

But a plan.

Just have a plan.

Or

Since you have a good record you could try asking for a deferment. Which would mean that if you don't do anything else wrong in a time length set by the Judge then all the charges are dropped as if they didn't happen. But if you get another ticket then everything become immediately due.

Or

Some places have community service to work off your debt.

Or

Is there anyway to pay the tag and insurance before the court date?

Then you could try asking for the ticket to be excused because you used up all your money fixing the problem.

The Judge could still tell you to pay the fines.

Don't wait until the last minute find out about stuff.

You can call the court clerk to ask if they normally allow payments an don't for how low long.

If you're in a jurisdiction that does take payment and has a harsh Judge you might want to check with legal aid. I don't know if they can help but if you don't ask you'll never know.
?
2014-10-15 19:20:35 UTC
> I need all the help I can get.



No you need a miracle they have you and your Mother dead to rights the moment her insurance lapsed she was supposed to turn in her tags so things like this couldn't happen. In addition as the driver it is your responsibility to insure ANY vehicle you're driving is completely legal in every manner you'll very probably be losing your license for 6 months to a year because you were driving without insurance (it won't matter why). NOTE If you are caught driving on a suspended license that is a criminal charge you'll be arrested and they won't care if your arrest gets you fired, evicted or anything else.



>The lady at the police department told me of it wasn't in my name they would give the citation to my mom



Yep everything but the no insurance pretty sure that's on you your Mother wasn't driving that is why the cop made the permit for now".. comment.



> I cannot let my mother get in trouble for this



You don't have a choice she's the one that broke most of the the laws you just brought it to police attention



> Any advice please.



Check into local public transportation or get a bicycle if your commute isn't too long because you may not be driving for awhile. As for your Mom the state will expect her to pay the tickets they'll probably suspend her license until the fines are paid.



>No rude comments.



I'm not being rude I'm just not candy coating the situation
If you are happy and you know it
2014-10-15 19:20:58 UTC
As far as this stop goes, I can't really give you any great suggestions to get out of the fines. However, I'll give you some suggestions and resources that "might" be of help to you either now or in the future.



I'll recommend you start listening to the Rule of Law radio program on www_logosradionetwork_com especially the Monday night shows. You may even try calling in between 8 and 10 pm. Central time and ask a question.



You need to learn the laws and the legal tricks before they stop you again. The video below, if you watch it, will explain a lot to you.



Legally, "Driving" is commercial activity use of the public road. "for hire." There's no legal requirement to have a "driver's license" to use your own personal conveyance on the public road. "The Man" will do ALL "he" can to convert you to being "in commerce" either at a stop, or in court to prevent you from getting away with that. Why? Because money is at the root of all sorts of evil.



Using words like "I'm Driving" or "I'm operating a vehicle" is all they need to have to legally prove that you were "driving." (most people go to jail for things they say, just watch an old 'cops' show and you'll see that happen again and again.)



Turning over "driving" documents such as your license, proof of insurance, registration etc. is also the way they legally convert you to being under that "driving" statute as well. If it were to come to a court case, they (the man, judges, prosecutors, police) will do all they can to get into the record those words as well. Finally, the court case will go against you and you'll need to follow through and take it to appeal. If you do everything right, you'll win on appeal and then can sue for malicious prosecution and triple damages.



Listen to the following archived broadcasts on logosradionetwork_com: ROL_2013-02_25, ROL_2014-01-27, ROL_2014_01_06, ROL_2014_03_24, ROL_2012-12-17



read the documents on the 4th paragraph at:

www_logosradionetwork_com/tao/

(especially the traffic stop script and the cross examination practice script)



Secrets the police don't want you to know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KeLe1LKpMI



You should read your state constitution to know your rights, and the statutes to know other things. One doesn't need to be an attorney to represent yourself in court, file lawsuits and win. But it does take time to learn how to do so.



One doesn't legally have to have a license plate, registration etc. But "the man" doesn't want people to know that or get away with it. If you're wanting to dislocate your car from "the state" then that is legally possible. In other words, you're trying to just keep the car parked for a long period of time OR if you feel you have the legal know how to defend yourself when they pull you over for not having a license plate, registration etc. The procedure is described in Archived program: ROL_2014-10-13 found at LogosRadioNetwork_com go to hour 1:21 in the broadcast



As the radio host says: you will remove the title of the car from the jurisdiction of "this state" You'll get the secretary of the state to acknowledge that they have no vested financial interest, claim or title to the property and acknowledge that it will be removed from the jurisdiction from "this state."
travelmaster
2014-10-15 18:05:47 UTC
you dont call the police dept to get ticket/citation information

you call the courthouse not the police dept plus the cop should ghave impounded the car too

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Random Guy
2014-10-15 16:58:28 UTC
You can afford to get married but can't afford insurance/registration/tags...


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