Question:
police man v me, who was right?
Jordan B
2009-02-12 09:18:25 UTC
Ok so in april last year, me and my brother was at the shops on our electronic scooter, and we was sat eating our tea on the pavement, and this police man (community officer guy) approached us and said we had to insure our scooter and he could take it off of us and charge us £80 to release it, and I said why? we've done nothing wrong, and he said it was because people had been riding on electric scooters causing damage, and he asked our names and adresses and kept us talking a real long time I was absolutley fuming I went off swearing and shouting, so who do you think was right? me or the police man?
Sixteen answers:
Joey H
2009-02-12 09:29:48 UTC
Ok from a legal stand point due to the other idiots that have been breaking the law and making the police be more diligent on the whole scooter situation even though you were not doing any thing at the moment there was still the issue of your scooter that was on a government road that seems to be uninsured and if it is the law to have a scooter registered plates and insurance in order to be a legal road worthy vehicle they had a legal obligation not to pick you out of a crowd but just do their jobs more or less you were at the wrong place at the wrong time. they cant show to much favoritism towards any one. i hope it all worked out in the end for you. b safe and have fun :)
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2016-12-15 01:21:00 UTC
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Butch UK
2009-02-12 09:34:38 UTC
it is an offence to ride any type of vehicle eclectic in a pedestrian shopping area except those for disabled people, however CPSO has no power of arrest but can detain you until a police officer arrives, it would seem that neither are wrong or wright what he did was correct but what you where doing was also correct, what i should have done was to quietly leave and say unless you are going to arrest me i am leaving , that will either make him leave or detain you until the police arrive , but if you scream and swear that is an offence the he really detain you have you arrested for a public order offence
shortie
2009-02-12 09:24:22 UTC
Without knowing what kind of electric scooter you were on, I've found the lot for you. Looks like the copper was right:



Electric Stand-On Scooters

These are not legal on the public roads or pavements, they are classed as a motor vehicle. It isn't an offence to draw or propel a vehichle by hand close to the near side or left-hand edge of the carriageway. If the motor is off, the question remains as to whether it is a motor vehicle at all since you do have the option to "scoot" should you so wish. I'm not sure how the law would view this, so please note that you have been warned. As for electric skateboards, you can certainly use them on private land with the owner's permission.



Electric Sit-On Scooters (Mopeds)

This is the first category of EV where the law is clear. Electric Sit-On Scooters are classed as mopeds in UK law and require a registration document, number plate, MOT at 3 years, insurance and a valid tax disc. For our purposes a "moped" is a 2 or 3 wheeled electric vehicle with a maximum design speed of 50 km/h (31 mph) that has lights and indicators. Riders must be at least 16 years old, wear an approved helmet, and have category "P" on their driving licence. If you only have provisional category "P" then you must display "L" plates and have a valid DL-196 certificate of completion of CBT issued by an approved training body.



Electric Motorcycles (Mopeds)

Electric motorcycles are classed as mopeds in UK law and require a registration document, number plate, MOT at 3 years, insurance and a valid tax disc. For our purposes a "moped" is a 2 or 3 wheeled electric vehicle with a maximum design speed of 50 km/h (31 mph) that has lights and indicators. Riders must be at least 16 years old, wear an approved helmet, and have category "P" on their driving licence. If you only have provisional category "P" then you must display "L" plates and have a valid DL-196 certificate of completion of CBT issued by an approved training body.



Light Electric Sit-On Scooters and Motorcycles

Light electric sit-on scooters and motorcycles are classed as light motorcycles in UK law and require a registration document, number plate, MOT at 3 years, insurance and a valid tax disc. For our purposes a "light motorcycle" is a 2 or 3 wheeled electric vehicle with a maximum output of 11kW that has lights and indicators. Riders must be at least 17 years old, wear an approved helmet, and have category "A1" on their driving licence. If you only have provisional category "A1" then you must display "L" plates and have a valid DL-196 certificate of completion of CBT issued by an approved training body.



Standard Electric Sit-On Scooters and Motorcycles

Standard electric sit-on scooters and motorcycles are classed as standard motorcycles in UK law and require a registration document, number plate, MOT at 3 years, insurance and a valid tax disc. For our purposes a "standard motorcycle" is a 2 or 3 wheeled electric vehicle with a maximum output of over 11kW that has lights and indicators. Riders must be at least 17 years old, wear an approved helmet, and have category "A" on their driving licence.
anonymous
2009-02-12 10:56:52 UTC
The Police Officer was doing his job, something you fail to grasp, but may grasp if at any time in the future you need the help of the police.

Perhaps to catch an uninsured driver who has left the scene of a crash involving damage to your scooter. ???

I used to be a bit of a rascal, but I soon learned to respect Police Officers who do a dangerous job and need support. You will get over it.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:34:36 UTC
Are you six? Why do you keep calling him "the police man?"



The "Police man" was right. You have to have your scooter insured to ride it on a public road.
hoovarted
2009-02-12 09:24:38 UTC
"Ok so in april last year, me and my brother was (my brother and I were) at the shops on our electronic scooter, and we was sat (were) eating our tea on the pavement,"

I would hope the policeman had a better command of the English language...
Fred F
2009-02-13 01:46:23 UTC
Obviously the police were in the right.

You were lucky he did not call the "real" police as you would have been arrested, would have had the scooter impounded and probably have ended up in court.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:46:12 UTC
I don't think the flash light cop had the right to make such a big deal. I think if he wants to make a difference about those scooters and insurance, he should have acknoledged you about what you should be aware of.
rnwallace07
2009-02-12 09:27:18 UTC
What does the law in your community (city, town) say about motorized vehicles on the roadways? In the US, any motorized vehicle (electric, gas powered or petrol powered) driven on public streets must be licensed and insured. Your immaturity about the situation shows how young you are and don't know the law. Sorry, you were wrong.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:23:00 UTC
He was right.



Next time, don't get so angry with him and maybe nothing would have happened. You do need to INSURE every motor vehicle against something because, like the cop said, people cause damage and don't pay to fix it.





Don't get pissed at cops, they can always find something else to charge you for, and also have the power to let you go scott free. Think about it.
blank
2009-02-12 09:28:27 UTC
The police officer.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:27:23 UTC
high i didnt read any details at all, the police man is always right. I know it sucks but that's just how it is.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:21:22 UTC
clearly the police man.
Copgirl
2009-02-12 12:48:19 UTC
The "Police Man" was. Get hooked on phonics, please.
anonymous
2009-02-12 09:22:49 UTC
well, you can answer that one yourself.............





were you insured or not?


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