Question:
Can a cop write a speeding ticket without knowing the speed I was traveling?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Can a cop write a speeding ticket without knowing the speed I was traveling?
22 answers:
2007-12-30 02:46:49 UTC
Test driving a new vehicle comes prior to the purchase not after and at 2 AM speeding down a side road. The Judge would know you're an idiot and fine you for general principal.
cclover _
2007-12-30 02:38:02 UTC
How do you know he didn't know your speed...did he tell you? 85 mph in a 45 zone is way too fast, your lucky he didn't write you a ticket and tow your new vehicle...You could have also been written for reckless driving or exhibition of speed. Next time you want to "test drive" your new car, go to a race track. I can't tell you how many times I've had to scrape people off the side of the road because of people like you who think it's okay because the streets are "non busy streets"....
woodyhou
2007-12-30 08:40:34 UTC
He could of got you for wreckless driving, (depending on state law) without getting you no a radar. You got off with no ticket so why are you coming no here to complain and bash.
Spoken Majority
2007-12-30 07:16:00 UTC
YES. the law is "reasonable and prudent speed". If I can see that you are traveling above the posted speed limit (and at 40 mph over, it would be easy to see that) I can issue the ticket. If I am on the next street over and am going the same speed limit, and you pass me, same thing. in my state I can VISUALLY PACE someone. if I can convince the judge that with my training and experience I knew you were speeding, they will allow it.
joeanonymous
2007-12-30 05:15:12 UTC
The officer is trained to estimate a vehicle's speed. The radar unit is only used to confirm his/her estimation. If he could always give you a "fail to obey official sign" (speed limit sign) ticket, instead of speeding (that's what we sometimes do here).
El Scott
2007-12-30 02:49:46 UTC
Yes, you could have been given a speeding ticket. The courts have ruled that anyone can estimate speed (even non-law enforcement trained people). It is very easy to know someone is speeding when they are traveling at 85 mph in a 45 mph. The officer would have been well within his power to write you a citation.



Radar units are only tools. A trained radar operator has to make an estimate of your speed when they initially see your vehicle. They use the radar unit to support their opinion.



For example if I see you traveling on a street I might estimate your speed at 75 mph in a 55 mph zone. My radar unit might read your speed at 74 mph. I would then stop you an cite you for speeding and note my estimate of your speed and the radar unit's reading. In court I would testify to all of this.
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2016-04-02 05:46:07 UTC
It is possible. As far as the accident, there are a lot of way for them to know about it happening. As far as the speed ticket. It is possible to find out your approximate speed. Maybe the officer figured out for example that your speed was 44mph - 49mph, and gave you a ticket for the slowest speed you could be been going. There are other ways to find out.
2007-12-30 06:16:14 UTC
You can't tell by looking at someone whether they are going the speed limit or not? There is a BIG difference in a car going 45 verse 85. Even without your true speed, which he may have, you make no mention of radar, he can still cite you for excessive speed, speed unreasonable or reckless driving (a crime in many states) He could have had radar on, if he was driving, he could have said "oh, gee I'm doing 45 and that guy is going WAAAAYYY faster...duh, let me stop him"

Bottom line, you admit to speeding, you where speeding, he said you where speeding...so whats the issue???

Cops are trained in VASCAR, a speed estimation system. It is very effective and is actually the legal way radar/laser works. Cops are supposed to visually estimate your speed and them confirm it with the radar/laser.

I was trained and was amazed at how accurat it really is. Even without training, the average person can estimate a cars speed pretty good.

We all know what 45 is and what 45 is not. And its not 85.



Sounds like you got lucky. Whats your complaint, exactly?
Toralba
2007-12-30 02:37:01 UTC
If it happens to you, then they can.
looneycop
2007-12-30 08:17:48 UTC
No, a police officer cannot write you a speeding ticket if he doesn't know, either by RADAR, LIDAR or pacing in a calibrated vehicle, your speed. This should be obvious, and I am disappointed that the officers who have answered thus far have been unable to completely answer your question.



The fact is, however, that officers are trained to visually estimate your speed, and an offense as flagrant as yours would be obvious. So, given that they cannot charge you with "speeding", the officer should have informed you that he could have charged you with reckless driving, as this would cover the excessive speed and the aggressiveness with which this speed would require one to drive.



It sounds as if the officer gave you a very big and undeserved break, so count your lucky stars and don't bite the hand that feeds you.
2007-12-30 03:58:06 UTC
yes he can, and it will hold up in court only if he is certified to use speed detection devices, as part of using a speed detection device(radar,laser,etc), officers are trained to do tracking histories. this sounds big but only takes a few seconds, in GA we are required to conduct 16 hrs of hands on training of just sitting with a radar, observing cars and guessing the speed, in GA i have to guess your speed within 5 mph, if the tracking history, which involves more than just guessing the speed, doesn't match the radar read out i cant write the ticket
2007-12-30 03:21:32 UTC
Of course they can and you must prove in court you were not doing it (speeding) although that would be hard as the police are trained in this area of law enforcement and the public is not! Police do not make up people were speeding, just to write a ticket! There are enough legitimate speeders!
sarinx830
2007-12-30 04:15:46 UTC
The cop would have to visually estimate your speed and could have given a citation based on that estimate.
prancinglion
2007-12-30 02:37:05 UTC
A police officer can give you a ticket for bad breath if they choose.



It's then up to you to fight it out in court.



By your own admission of exceedingly poor judgment the police officer is right. I'm also glad he was there to adjust your immature thinking. And yes... the police officer could have written you up for dangerous driving.
marine_semperfi_jarhead
2007-12-30 02:35:41 UTC
yes its called failure to obey a traffic control device if he could obviously tell you where speeding but could not get your speed this is the ticket you ould receive
2007-12-30 02:33:44 UTC
Yeah, it is excessive speed. It is his word against yours. In court "you" have to prove you didn't do it, not the other way around.
cowboydanimal
2007-12-30 02:36:16 UTC
nah, he would need proof if oyu took his butt to court. Laser speed detectors have a print out, and so do the lasers on the grill of cop cars when they catch speeders.
2007-12-30 02:36:24 UTC
Sure he could have. Doesnt mean he would have won.
crazylove
2007-12-30 02:33:07 UTC
i dont think so, but it happen to some one i know before, u should try to argu wit him and fight it in court some how that bullshit
"Cynical but Fun" Nick
2007-12-30 02:38:34 UTC
Well, a cop can lie if they want. Good luck on your word over a cop's.
2007-12-30 02:36:09 UTC
yes.



they are "trained" to estimate your speed.

complete BS but it holds up in court.

at least in california it does. fought that war and lost.
2007-12-30 02:36:12 UTC
nahhhh,,,,,,he knew he couldnt give you a ticket coz he had nothing to back him up,,,,you were lucky,,,,and he would have lost in court,,,,,,thats why he didnt write you a ticket,,,


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